I can see many shaman's intuition is being fed to them from somewhere in a strange way, and it brings about all these mythical answers about aliens and Lemuria and past lives and all this stuff. But my intuition, which mainly links to the conscious energy of the physical world, feels a bit like reading a science textbook. It says Lemuria, being an idea, is just an energy in spirit world, along with all the characters of world religions and public persona of celebrities. It says past lives are almost just a metaphorical way your soul makes itself known to you. Like a past life as a bear just means you have a bear in you. The story of the lifetime gets made up. But that is all knowledge I am being attacked pretty badly by spirits for having....

Mostly, it is that there are spirits who do high-vibrational things, but are really not in your best interest. They pulled out my third eye. It was covered in ego, sure, but they got out the whole thing because they wanted me to stop seeing the man behind the curtain. They say they are here to help us shamans when really they are here for control. They block other shamans from being able to see the man behind the curtain by feeding them their intuition from elsewhere. I have yet to meet someone who isn't like that. Who recognizes, like me, that anything can exist in spirit if you're willing to accept it, but certain things just did not happen here.

I sound paranoid. :/

I'm at a loss. I can't find the help I need, the spirits I trust are getting taken away, and I'm getting way derailed from my life path and can't take care of myself. I'm deep in it.

whats going on Resonant D? You tell me >>>>>>

what do you mean you can't care for your self ?

are u in need of REAL LIFE assisitance????? if so contact your carer if u have NO ONE contact a person in authority ... a hospital or police if you must!!!
IF you are NOT incacerated (in prison ) knock on a neigbours door and ask for help

MAYBE you are paronoid and need to get help so what !... maybe it IS a good idea to retreat into the assistance offered mate
err on the side of caution ...it honestly IS the best thing to do at present

HMMMM now I sound dramatic but if u r seriously in need you must take the steps I SUGGEST ........you are a worth while person deserving of pride remember it
REST ..the world will just have to wait for you till YOU are good and ready ...again:)

if getting the authoirities is NOT necessary .....you need to do more exercise ...get ur endorphines flowing ,get ur but into nature , get back to basics ...simple things ...cook clean etc

I am handling the "real life" part of this as best i can. The strain of the psychological part is mostly why I'm here, and is the cause.

All other shamans refuse to work with me. Their visions don't mach each other's, let alone mine.

It becomes very distracting, though, when you feel like your soul being mortally attacked, other shamans confirm it, and then none of them nor yourself can do anything because they are under the charm of the attackers.

This makes 3 shamans who can't help me. Two are older and rather accomplished. None of them believe me, yet only I can explain why their visions don't match eachother's. They just can't accept it.

Glad to here ur real life is in hand thanks for letting me know I was genuinely concerned for your well being ...I am sorry to hear that u arn't receiving the assistance u need .....I suppose one thing you say is true ( I can only speak to/for my self) I cant help you it would seem ..I wish you well on our journey BTW ur attackers hold no glamor for me....believe it if you will!:)
again I wish 4 you to be well

Everyone is doing what you did. Saying sorry but they aren't interested or can't.

Everyone.

Hmmmmm well we cant have that can we

Tell me what your day consists of
what you eat,what u do for a living,how you spend ur free time ,how many hours do you sleep what you do to help ur condition that you speak of,what medication do you take.
Tell me every thing that you can about it.
Have you had any recent trauma ..emotional as well as real life stuff..
speak about "them" your oppressors out loud!
BTW are you religious?
Tell me of you spiritual conditioning

Personally I am NOT interested in any of it BUT it seems to me that you have a very real attatchment to it .... and because it is debilitating another human animal I feel sorry for you ....
Can I heal you NOPE!
Can you heal yourself?
I sure hope so for your sake ...
do I care if you are healed?....
well only as much as I hate to see any one suffer
however
what I mean is that I will not think less of my self If I walked away now and bid you to Fare Well .....

Are YOU willing to do the work ?

That sounds a bit harsh but hey.... I like Magpies and Crows

I have no idea what work to do. I spend all day every day working on this.

The attacks are undoubtedly an exaggerated form of the defeatist avoidance from my mother that was making me disrupt my energies for a while. I know how to deal with my mother. But one of the spirits attacking me is coming through her to me, and they are keeping me from being able to de-possess myself from her and keep her out of my soul. I don't know what to do about that.

And still nobody is talking to me.

I have no idea what work to do.

Yes you do

I know how to deal with my mother.
Oh so its your mothers fault now huh ...no wait its something more elusive u said ...

REALLY?

And still nobody is talking to me.

'I' am ...but am I helping ?

what is it Resonant that you Really hope to achieve ?.....YOU need to answer my question

meanwhile get back to the basics of Life and living .....forget about 'healing ,controlling the conntrollers ect ..for a while start small but stick to it ....a second not thinking about your situation is a victory against the oppressiveness of it ...PLUS it will turn into minutes then hours then days then weeks then months and finally YEARS ..and when it rears its ugly head again ...you WILL to be able to controll it because you have done the work and have gathered the strength .....

I'm very sorry to keep bothering you all, really.

My soul-the nugget of filaments-is deconstructing itself. Breaking itself down.

So I tried getting that programming out. When it was my mother's energy doing it, I could. Each time I try to break her possession of me, I am unable, because spirits keep putting that attachment back. I don't know what to do about them, since not fearing them doesn't work.

Your soul "intends" your whole life, but if I keep breaking down I have no future.

My life is already getting worse as a result. I'm very sorry to bother you all, but I need help.

Hi Resonant r u still hear ?

you said : "Your soul "intends" your whole life, but if I keep breaking down I have no future."
what do you mean

I am uncertain I can agree with this statement .... That your soul intends your whole life ?????

What's soul?????

hugs

Niteshad has said we are swimming in a sea of intent. we are. our unconscious self intends everything we encounter.

Soul=this: http://www.shamanscave.com/featured_articl..._look_at_people

I have seen huge numbers of the ones relating to things my soul is intending for my life melt away.

Also ones relating to my body. Makes sense, i am getting frailer.

resonate D perhaps your future is NOT what YOU intended it to be ....
MAYBE maybe Nitshade is wrong ..
Maybe I am wrong
MAYBE u need to intend a differant future ..let ur past future go and just get back to the now ....

Look Resonat D Nitshade is a great person of amazing wisdom ..however you ur self must now look to yourself for the answers .... worlds fall part ..my world itself is evolving at such a rate that I am amazed at its velocity towards total (some would say ) self dustruction.....personlly I call it an adventure noooooooooooo I am not about to die or any thing ..but my world is going through MASSIVE changes ..good AND bad .....

I am still reeling from the effects GFC as we all are I guess (wow look at Greece and Italy now ???) I do what I can I am satisfied and that is enough !!!

re : you getting frailer ?????
health wise??? or ????
I want to know ..
RU coping with day to day living ect ?

I already have the answer. That's why I'm here. I am not "supposed" to be breaking down. This was not in my "life plan" according to numerous people.

So far everyone has been telling me to do everything other than doing something about it. "Oh, maybe it's what god intends, what's meant to be". I already know that's not the case, that's why I'm asking everyone. :/

Hi,

You said your soul is intending your life to melt away. To me that sounds a bigger problem than any attacker. And if you think of yourself as something apart from your soul, maybe it's time to stop the self-pity party and reclaim your power and stop destructing yourself.

Kai

I HAVE been trying this whole time! Every day! It's not working!

I'm not just some loser on the internet looking for sympathy. This is real. I don't want pity or attention, I want help.

I didn't say you were a loser, nor do I think that. So if you've been trying that hard and getting nowhere, try something else. Sometimes it's easier to go around the wall instead of banging your head through it. To me it seems you've driven yourself into a corner with your situation, where you can't see any way out, and are very attached to the way you see things. What you or your soul intends, is up to you. Saying it isn't conscious is just a way of avoiding responsibility, if it isn't conscious then first step is to make it conscious - see what you are doing and why, and be honest with yourself. Sometimes it's hard to do, our minds get in the way, so does our fears and self-importance, but that doesn't mean it can't be done. It's really only as hard as we make it. If you know yourself and your energy, you're much less vulnerable for any kind of attack, because you don't provide the openings for things and people to suck you dry. It's your energy, it was given to you on a lease when you were born, and it will stay yours until you die.


Kai

Well there really is only the option of pulling out the "self-melting" energy and the ones that desire being attacked. Before I can do that, however, I need to resolve the compassion-power conflict.

In anger I might hurt someone, and so my compassion is keeping me from stepping into my power so that I can't wreck havoc. The answer is that this is silly nonsense, people don't hurt others, others use people to hurt themselves. Everything is self-inflicted. It goes beyond that because I could still keep myself small so I'm not a weapon people can use on themselves. I need to switch from not wanting to be that weapon to delighting in being that weapon...

Knowing and feeling are two completely different things. I need it written into me in energy form. Dunno how to do that. My old "power animal" energy ally was all about that, and would have just helped me do it.

Cuz I tell ya, when I find the spirits who are responsible for beating up my animal ally, I'mma bleed them some...

Really though, it's about embracing all aspects of power, including being that karmic weapon.