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Hey there, I'm new to this forum and about a month and half ago i started on my dreaming journey. I been reading carlos Castaneda books, which is the main inspiration for the dreaming practices and I wanted to see if there are any other people out there who also do same practices as well. Anyhow currently I'm having dreaming almost every night since i been abstaining from wasting my sexual energy but so far my dreaming been without any kind of control, meaning I'm completely lost in whatever is happening in the dreaming without being able to stop and take a look at my surroundings or whatever. My main question right now is to how i can stop from being lost in whatever is happening in the dream and take control instead of being out of control like it is now.

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hi Dreamer123,

First, I would not worry about wasting sexual energy in a normal course of things. I think that is an unproductive avenue of control that doesn't really help (most people). Of course, you can go to extremes and do bad things, but normal human sexual behavior is not generally a problem with regards to dreaming energy.

As far as the dreams or dreaming practices themselves go, I'm not a Castaneda practitioner, nor would I pretend to be. That being said, I think specific steps he was taught were taught to him for a reason, and aren't appropriate for everybody. Taking control of the dream in a lucid dream sense is just one type of practice. The way we work with dreaming energy is more in a sense of expanding communication between the awake and dreaming side and activating it in a shamanic sense. Lucidity can too often become a larger box for the mind.

A specific practice to try might be to carry intent from the awake side to the dreaming side. For example, intending to dream about something, or somebody. This creates pathways of energy and wakes up the dreaming energy side, learning to move intent from the awake side to the dreaming side. Doing self-healing work and making energy available is also very important to improving dreaming work, though this takes a long time. 

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I have to disagree about normal sexual behavior as I just had an experience with dreaming that shed light on that topic. Lately I have been struggling with not wasting sexual energy for dreaming purposes as that means no more sex and no fapping and no any kind of sexual activity which also means no more relationships and no more intimacy, a huge part of being a human after all until I had this dream last night.

So I was going on and about the dream in another country doing stuff, nothing too interesting until a girl showed up that I recognized from a previous dream, anyhow we were immediately into each other and started making out in the middle of the street, I noticed how no cars were around and nobody were bothering us but I also could not focus on anything in particular, I can see everything around me but cannot focus on any item. So she says lets go to my place and I'm like lets go, so in the next moment we were at her place, no traveling or going anywhere, instant teleportation basically. She starts going around the house doing a couple things I guess to get ready while I'm thinking this is unnecessary, we should have been in her room already but its my first time at her place I don't want to shift energy in a different direction so just let her do her thing. Finally were in her room, I say to keep the lights off and we start taking off our clothes and I wake up in my bed......

Nooooooooooo!!!!! why did I wake up?!?! ah I must have ran out of energy, I noticed my first chakra was hot, and when I say hot I dont mean I was aroused it was more like......when you have been on your phone for a while and you put the phone to sleep and feel the phone is kinda hot from use, like that. It felt right around the sexual organs and after around 10 minutes it cooled off and went away.

Now i'm no longer struggling with this topic, now I'm in it all the way, you're actually not letting go your sexual life and relationships and intimacy forever, you are shifting it to a different dimension so to speak, into a higher realm.....into super sayan if you will lol. If you have read Carlos Castaneda books, you can get proficient enough with your energy body that you can bring it to this reality but until then, your physical body serves as an anchor. At some point this anchor will be holding you back and were all gonna have to let go this temporary anchor anyhow but it will be a choice instead of no choice we all know as "death"

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I have also noticed after you ejaculate, not only your body feels depleted and want to sleep, when I look in the mirror I can see my face getting older and my energy is darker, you are literally being depleted of your life force, although it is different for women as they can have orgasms without wasting their life force, kinda unfair if you ask me, and yes there are kegel exercises that men can do to separate orgasm from ejaculating but thats work that you have to do, daily practice, lots of discipline, if you forget a day or 2 your body will regress a lot so you have no choice but to constantly maintain yourself as well. women dont have to do anything.... :/

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Hi Dreamer123,

I would say if you really want to be proficient at dreaming the place to start is with the recapitulation practice. Recapping your sexual history is immensely beneficial for reclaiming your energy as well as understanding yourself better. For me, personally, recapping was/is the cornerstone to my dreaming, where I could dream more powerfully, and if you think about it, it makes sense. Once you start getting your energy back, whether it’s tied up in sexual encounters, emotional patterns, or habits, etc. you can then use it to explore different realms of perception. 
 

good luck, 

cammie 

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Hi Dreamer123,

If 20-25 years ago someone told me that Castaneda's books served only a small purpose and only flickers of shamanic truth, I wouldn't have been able to imagine it. I had them all read them all, many times. Carlos' work serves a purpose: they are a stepping stone and can be a trigger for those who are energetically bent as dreamers and otherwise, act like a calling card, but it is up to you and your intent to decide if you want to stop with his lovely works of fiction or really allow yourself to discover what's behind the trail of little breadcrumbs his narratives hint at. You really can't get that from a book, although you can evolve naturally as a dreamer on your own you will probably only get so far. Waking up in your dreams, taking control in the dreamscape, is really just a fun beginning. Imagine :)

Mandy

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4 hours ago, Mandy said:

Hi Dreamer123,

If 20-25 years ago someone told me that Castaneda's books served only a small purpose and only flickers of shamanic truth, I wouldn't have been able to imagine it. I had them all read them all, many times. Carlos' work serves a purpose: they are a stepping stone and can be a trigger for those who are energetically bent as dreamers and otherwise, act like a calling card, but it is up to you and your intent to decide if you want to stop with his lovely works of fiction or really allow yourself to discover what's behind the trail of little breadcrumbs his narratives hint at. You really can't get that from a book, although you can evolve naturally as a dreamer on your own you will probably only get so far. Waking up in your dreams, taking control in the dreamscape, is really just a fun beginning. Imagine :)

Mandy

The power behind this response tho <3

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