Posts posted by Belle
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Alex have given you an empowering insight and in fact what he saying is a byproduct of the power we have after we tidy up our mess aka result of real change.
But before you can get to what Alex is saying let's have a tour of what we humans experience and how we normally deal with it.
Based on you initial post, it seems that you been a lot of change and try to change for good, to stay happy as we all humans wants to be. We are programmed to seek out the best in us and life in general. Every single person on this planet wants to be happy, in peace and fulfilling life. And those drives us to seek out every possible means that can finally make us feel good. No one wants to be unhappy, miserable, depress,physically, emotionally, mentally sick. But because we are here on earth to find our own truth of "who we are' many things and circumstances will arise that would somehow alert us that we are in the wrong way...all these miseries we experience are pointing to the direction of change.
How we normally deal when things are not going the way we wanted is different for everybody. But the common approach is to seek outside of ourselves the solution of every problem; finding new partner, new job, new place, change career, or new meditation technique, new teacher.. list is on and on.. These are all changes but of all these nothing can give us the intrinsic value or everlasting effect of everything we want in life, Why? because what we are really deeply seeking is, to see ourselves being complete, love, whole, powerful, peaceful, joyful, content and free. These can only be experience and seen within our own being or true Self our own truth. This is the real change. To see who you are vs. who you are not.
Seeing, knowing, living yourSelf will give you the power how to live. It gives you the direction you wanted, it lights up all those dark spots that made you miserable. You will know what life for. The best thing is you won't be hunted by your past because you have forgiven them with gratitude. From this onward you will see that life indeed is a gift that need to be nurture and cherish because its beautiful.
Self healing is a step towards real change.
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Hi Missaries,
Perhaps you know subconsciously what you want in life because you are here posting to get your message across. Now you found this site, it might mean you start from here or maybe somewhere that can help you turn around.
We are offering classes that can absolutely help you with beginning with self healing because that is what's most of us needed to start the process. I know as I've seen many people here that have quite similar to what you are experiencing and I've seen them change but it's not going to be easy for sure, but if you really want real change... you need to roll up your sleeve and work for it. You will get a lot of help from everyone around but still it remain ýou'the driver of change. If you want to drive your car, you steer it in the direction you wanted, the same with life...
Best of luck to you and hope to hear from you here soonest.. btw, which state are you in Australia?
Belle
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33 minutes ago, nitekreature said:thank you , are there any other classes that are offered? i already took re cap and spirals .
aww, so only Seeing 1 is possible for you from tier 1 classes but that is advance class. Next session maybe around September there would be another basic classes to be offered like quicksilver and dreaming 1 so might flag that link to keep you updated or sign up for an email updates so you will receive info classes in the future.
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Hi Nitekreature,
Please follow the link for our beginner classes. We just started the recap but Spiral class will start on Friday, so either of that you can still sign up.
https://www.shamanscave.com/classes/online-classes
Belle
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Hi Cj,
I did really intent to not answer your quesion direcly because a)its pretty hard to conceptualize it and b) its an essay, so when I personally write an essay it is as if I am standing of knowing what I am talking about, like I have complete and clear position of the topic. And since those question you ask is very deep and vast, let alone hard to put into words. That is why, I tried to answer it through the edges. And also as I've said, there are many ways to talk about it, but unless one already experience it, it would be hard to understand. So I will not steal your own thunder to explore on that experiencially.
So how I came accross shamanism? well would you believe I haven't heard shamanism until I stumble this shamanscave website for the first time. I was actually looking for any writing or any blog abount intent and will, then when I searched on google at the top of the list, there was link to here about intent the path to seer, so I begun to browse the website, read some of Niteshad writings and pretty interested about it then signed up for spiral class which was about to start in few days time. And that's the start and I keep signing every classes on offer every session... so now I'm finishing tier 3 and started few tier 4 classes.
How do I incorporate it into my life? good question
. Before I came here, I was a pretty hard core religious person and its typical me to ''act'' on what I know of. If the bible says, love one another and then I found myself becoming an agry person, I pause and reflect what is happening to me. So anyhow it was the quest for answer of what hindering me to act and live how I suppose to live. It was a series of explorations that led me to here and am still here for the reason that I found what I've been searching. Here in the cave we don't write an essay, we experience and work direcly with energy. We do emphasize self healing because its only then we can move forward to be able to see, act and move. The normal people have shielded themselves to onslaught of whatever the world throw at them just by occupying their minds with temporary stuff but for us, we take the challenges because we already know and living from that knowing is not easy, to see and act requires courage, inner strenght and humility. There is no turning back for us we have to live and act upon as a conduit for spirit while manifesting as humans. I would say, the start of this journey was quite painful but with perseverance we eventually reap the harvest of our hard earn labor, living consciously, intently, willfully and help heal the world And in this respect where my love for this journey/shamanism rooted from. There is no single moment that I had regretted that I came here, my enthusiasm when I first came here never ever faded, it as if everyday has something in store for me. And I guess the most important aspect one would take is having an unwavering enjoyment in the process. Without it, the journey would be so dull and daunting, so I love this work and will continue loving it.. never I dislike it..
Belle
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Hi Cj,
Welcome. Am not be a knowledgeable shaman perhaps coz like you am still currently learning shamanism. Though so far I've seen and experienced quite a bit so I will try to answer some of your questions.
I haven't heard the terms tripartite unity though it might be similar to three different dimensions or planes of existence. For normal humans our conscious awareness is pretty much anchor on the physical or earth plane and we navigate our awareness pretty much based on five senses. The way we live our lives usually an interplay with our emotions and thinking mind, most often our experiences are by product of our unconscious intent. Almost all the inventory we made relates to this plane of existence, the highs and lows, the confusion, the aches and pain, the pleasure from external things and to top it all, our identity is born. This dimension where we can see only as individual, we can hardly see here our common shared humanity and of course all creatures on earth. Living in this dimension is pretty much controlled by mind using emotion to create the experience.
The second dimension is an expanded version of the first, here our identity is no longer confined with our ego, there is a test of freedom here, we are no longer fooled by our identity and we can choose our experience here based on our intent. We can separate here more or less what is real and what is not, what is the need for the flesh and what is the need for your soul. Begin to see others as being equal and respect to all creatures.You start to learn here detachment. This is the start of living consciously, compassionately, forgiving and start to let go of need for gratification derived from material possessions and success. In this dimension, humans are quite operating their conscious awareness from the heart or core. Its not a complete transcendence yet but enough that you can travel to the next dimension.
So the 3rd dimension is the totality, I don't know if any humans can sustain in this state every minute of the day, this is pretty big as if the universe is you, you are one with everything. I guess here you are totally free from ego or illusions, you are living the truth, there is nothing can blind your eyes, you completely know. I suspect that you can be everywhere and everything here, there is complete freedom, there is no fear here because you can't perceive anything outside of yourself. This is complete union.
There is another way of putting these three together but I prefer to do it that way because I believe that what we all humans need to know. I want to be practical, talking to things that one can relate on how they should live their lives peacefully and harmoniously.
And yes, these are three stages or level that one must climb in order to travel the different dimensions. Some people use drugs or plants in order to experience those higher dimensions, but the problem with that is we need to master our conscious awareness in each of different stages so real transformation can take place.
About the fall of mankind simply means that our awareness to the deepest truth of who we are is lost. You may heard that everything is energy/spirit. This spirit is complete, unified, self encompassing, powerful, full of potential; that is who we are, that is our nature. All of us and all the created ones are the spark of this energy, we explore and seek out using our power to create. I would like to say that the Source is playing Its power and consciousness is the mirror to know itself. However due to passing of times and the evolution, human consciousness slowly lost contact with the Source. This is where we rely our thinking mind to navigate through life.
The fall of human kind can also be called the 'separation' or descent of men. We perceived ourselves as separate and that is the root of our fear.
I hope this somehow help you by any means.
Belle
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Hi Prairiecreek,
Welcome!. I felt I need to clarify some sort of opposing sides of how we gave advice to Northi's initial post. Our responses(me,Holly and Lorrie) were saying to him 'do it for yourself what you want/desire to have. While your advise to Northi was to 'ask for help on whatever he want/desire'. That is what Alex & Peastacey meant when they were spotting the pattern of variances on our responses. And to begin with, there is nothing wrong or right with our responses, only that we are seeing in different angle and perhaps it evokes confusion to you which is why I will try to clarify this and hopefully I can come to reconcile this variance.
I deeply understand what you said because I was born and raised as christian in fact many years ago, when I first read the book the 'secret' it was monumental in the sense that I was like insane, deeply confused. That book was basically saying that we have power to change our lives whereas based on how I understand the christian teachings, its only God or Jesus has power and we people down here on earth are waiting for their mercy. But anyhow, I was able to get out from the confusion and little by little I was able to understand and in fact gain so much clarity of who we are, who is Jesus/Christ what are they to us as believers, who is God... and there is something beyond that....
Okay. This is how I understand Jesus, by the way, Jesus and Christ is not the same to me, I can probably call it Jesus the Christ rather that Jesus Christ. We believe that Jesus is the only son of God that whoever believe him, follow him will be save and gain eternal life that was promised. He is the link between God and man and he is the mediator of all the possible gifts and help that we need as humans. I believe all that and I am the witness of all those gifts in fact where I am now in my evolution is in fact I attribute that to his intervention. I believe that there is higher order that governs all of us, their intent to help and what I mostly believe is that, their utmost help they lend to us is for our own growth and evolution rather than our petty daily needs and demands in life.
Jesus came to earth to show us how we can save our own lives and how we can be equal to him. In fact He call us brothers because he knew that we are all children to God which he call Father. His teachings are guiding us on how to become Christ, to transcend our understanding, our perception and to eventually see the truth that we are indeed like him.
Maybe 10 years ago, I was advised to get divorce because my relationship was kind of ruining my 'soul' and if I want to progress to my spiritual journey I need to leave behind what is hurting me or hindering me. And its not arguable that most of us blame someone else for whatever 'suffering' we have well it maybe true but we failed to look into ourselves that is our own wounds are in fact hurting us. So then I went to deep contemplation and I saw the crucifix and I was staring at it there was just a sudden realization in the form of question. I questioned him what makes him forgive even on the cross when he was dying and why I can't, what kind of heart he has that he was not angry to his oppressor while my heart was full of anger, what he see that I can't see. That curiosity led me to where I am now, though it was a travel coming to here, it was full of adventure with pain, confusion, deep shits and many troubles.
The point that I am trying to make is, yes Jesus help us but to me his intent is for us not to be just a bystander of his power, his light, his benevolent heart. His short life was showing us that there is a way out of this 'illusion' of suffering. That we should not focus on his death but instead of his resurrection. That he overcome the world by defeating death and come back to life. His life is an archetypal of our own lives. That salvation is within us, its our own making. That everything we want, change, have or be is already within because like Him we are all children of God. There is no one outside of Him, we are all created equal with the same image and likeness. Which means, what Jesus or God have, we also have.
So here in the cave, we do a lot of self healing(our way to forgiveness to ourselves and others.) Because its our past(the unforgiven episode of our lives) are hindering us to see "Christ" the one consciousness that governs our lives here. The same Christ that Jesus see, lived and act-thus he become Jesus the Christ.
As Alex pointed out of how he change his life and shape his experiences the way he intent to be and that is the effect of self healing and here in the cave we really emphasize that along with stalking our ego. As Jesus said, if you want to follow me take up your cross(in the cave our way is through self healing) and deny yourself(here by means of stalking our ego).
I hope that clarify with you and hope to see you here.
Belle
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hi Northi,
Sorry to hear about what you've been through and I personally have no idea how you feel and thanks for trusting here such a sensitive question.
I don't know how we can help you because here we don't transform or change external appearance well of course possibility is endless but it is left with the individual to do it not that we can do it for you. There is no quick fix to that but for now what I can say is try to accept who you are, that would be the best thing you can do, I mean the more you try to push yourself the more it become confusing and painful. There is no lasting happiness that any external things can give us because the joy of living is the happiness of just simply be. No matter what people say against us it doesn't matter if we accept and love ourselves first.
All the best to you and remember you can ask help and throw out into the universe, you are not alone and forever won't be, you are loved as everyone is.
Belle
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We all might start with wandering or questions that need to be answer, or weird stuff going on with us. And I guess you come here to seek the meaning of all of those. Now I don't want to sound like doing a marketing job, but all of us has gifts in one form or another and we need to enhance our abilities, to get some focus and create beneficial fruits out of it. And in order to facilate and quicken our journey we need guidance. So here, we offer various classes; tier 1 for example, is focus on self-healing, familiarity with Intent to get more clarity, we have dreaming class and awareness and perception. These are all the basic classes here, so if you are interested try any of those and see it for yourself and then decide afterwards.
Wishing you all well and that you may find clarity and focus of what you are really here for
Belle
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We respect everything you said Deathwalker as we respect in everyone's opinion. I guess what Peastacey mean in this post is everyone has the right to express what they feel and think regardless of people accept them or not, like them or dislike them, or whether other people find it disturbing. Because truly, who we are to judge upon another when we don't know what they been through in life.
We respect what science or medicine say about something but for us here we explore what is beyond impossible. I can't argue on what you see and believe, its hard to teach people when they are in their strong position.
But thank you for your post and you are always welcome.