more cosmology -- oneness v. duality

[douglas]

I'd like a little more on Unity.

Is every thing, including us, a manifestation of one thing?

[ralph]

Hi Douglas,

 

You have a talent for bringing up topics that could take books to explore that would eventually only scratch the surface. I like that.

 

As far as I know, the Makers Tradition as it was brought to me doesn't meddle so much in religion or religious beliefs. Yet some of the Makers were priests, why is that?

 

I think it is because whatever insight you gain, whatever awareness depth you reach, your ultimate freedom is to give it the meaning You want. This tradition is about teachings, but beliefs can't be taught nor can they be discussed. Believe what you want, what serves you, gives you the drive you need to achieve whatever it is you wish to achieve.

[silenceseeker]

Hi Douglas,

 

I'd like to add something to this. Yes, of course there is unity in all things. This is how the shaman shapeshifts into a bear, hawk or jellyfish, because they are already a bear, hawk or jellyfish or whatever they choose to move into. It's how the shaman bi-locates because they are already where they intend to go. It's also how the shaman can heal, because they can recognize the patient's energy as connected with their own. The belief of 'otherness' is the illusion that is made 'real' through the agreement of culture - and I refuse to agree. I do believe that deep down, everyone of us knows that we are all connected, it's just a matter of removing the blocks that were put in place so you can see it.

 

I invite you to see if for yourself, you can actually discover the answer to these questions for yourself. All the answers you are getting here were gotten from each of our own personal experiences. We weren't told the answers, we were given the tools to get them for ourselves.

 

Lorrie

 

[cyfnos]

It's like music, first there is rhythm, the rhythm is how things move, faster sound waves produces higher pitch, slower lower pitch, there is the sound humanity makes, the sound the earth makes, the rocks, the plants, the sound the galaxies are making. Some of it we label as music but that is just a human perception, a choice. Some of it is used to create happiness, or help the grieving process, some will help you express your anger or fears all of that variety comes from the basic rhythm of a sound wave. It is not bad or good it just is what is done with it is up to you. But everything in this world can be heard. Now is sound the basic fabric of the universe? Some would say yes some no but it certainly connects us with everything on a very basic level. You can go behind that veil and look at the intent what is the intent of sound itself, why does it exist, what is its purpose? This is not an intellectual exercise it is an active process of transforming your energy to experience the world differently. I found out music and sound are not human attributes, they exist in other realms, in other species. To really understand your place and what you would like to contribute to this world you can choose to be in a position of experiencing what is around you without the filters of humanity. Direct experience. The more I work with sound the more I become silent because I am realizing there is so much to listen to... that silence is a space growing in my heart where all the sounds that exist, existed or will exist have a home, by that I mean they can and will be heard without judgment. I am providing unity, I have to be balanced and detached.

 

 

Cyfnos

[douglas]

Hi Douglas,

 

You have a talent for bringing up topics that could take books to explore that would eventually only scratch the surface. I like that.

Ralph,

My friends (they are few) seem to find it more irritating than endearing.

 

See you in class.

 

-d.