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Hello ,

I finally was able to get back on the forums . Well I saw four bats this evening . I know basic symbolism and or signs from bat totem . I was interested if the makers have any feedback or insight into animal totems in their tradition.? I always felt a special connection to bats since I was very young . Thank you :)

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Hi nitekreature!

"Animal totems" in the sense that is used in new agey things is a bit like dream dictonaries - sometimes the symbolism is relevant, but might leave you looking at a very narrow picture. More interesting is the energy and what it speaks to in you and contrary, what in your energy or intent might attract bats or any other critter for that matter? 

'Intent' can certainly speak to you through animals, clouds, or whatever is handy - whether that's your own intent through your dreaming energy or other intent in the world, situations can get created where you get the message so to speak. The information in those happenings, omens etc. is already all there, you just need to look past the layers to the energy itself. If you get stuck in the layer of symbolism, you might still get relevant information, but you are creating a tool that traps part of your energy and makes it external to you on some level. 

For example seeing an omen can be a relevant way of seeing, but in that case there needs to be the 'seeing' part, a sense of knowing through your 'seeing' what the omen means. If you take the seeing away, the omen becomes pretty meaningless. If you have the distinct feeling that something is an 'omen', then you already have the seeing as well, you are just not looking at it or listening to what it tells you. 

Maybe not the answer you were looking for but I hope it's of some use to you :)

Kai

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I definetly was focusing on my intent and movement while I was looking at that bats and also awe struck as they are a rare sight here . I looked at my intent and my thoughts before I saw them in my walk . I know everything  here is very abstract . :) Could find many meanings and feelings I gather with many things :) 

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16 hours ago, kai said:

Hi nitekreature!

"Animal totems" in the sense that is used in new agey things is a bit like dream dictonaries - sometimes the symbolism is relevant, but might leave you looking at a very narrow picture. More interesting is the energy and what it speaks to in you and contrary, what in your energy or intent might attract bats or any other critter for that matter? 

'Intent' can certainly speak to you through animals, clouds, or whatever is handy - whether that's your own intent through your dreaming energy or other intent in the world, situations can get created where you get the message so to speak. The information in those happenings, omens etc. is already all there, you just need to look past the layers to the energy itself. If you get stuck in the layer of symbolism, you might still get relevant information, but you are creating a tool that traps part of your energy and makes it external to you on some level. 

For example seeing an omen can be a relevant way of seeing, but in that case there needs to be the 'seeing' part, a sense of knowing through your 'seeing' what the omen means. If you take the seeing away, the omen becomes pretty meaningless. If you have the distinct feeling that something is an 'omen', then you already have the seeing as well, you are just not looking at it or listening to what it tells you. 

Maybe not the answer you were looking for but I hope it's of some use to you :)

Kai

I guess what I was trying to figure out is my intent and why I came across so many bats :) I figured many reasons , my brain has been rather scattered too and my energy , the bats quick moments I feel brought my awareness to that part of myself . I have just been trying to follow the energy and figure the rest out . It was a very uplifting moment and inspired as bats are endangered here and a rare sight :) I was very moved on many energetic levels . Thank you for your insight and response :)

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On 10/6/2020 at 1:58 AM, nitekreature said:

What ... awesome :) we are "seeing " them now for many reasons ;)

Tbh i still have no idea why I see whatever in my environment when I do. Throughout this past month I kept almost running over animals, or running over already dead animals, and I mightve been the one who hit the skunk that sprayed me and my car. It felt like a nightmare. But if we can just open ourselves to hearing the language of our energy more instead of listening to our minds about what it all 'means'....I think thats where it counts.

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On 10/8/2020 at 10:24 AM, peastacey said:

Tbh i still have no idea why I see whatever in my environment when I do. Throughout this past month I kept almost running over animals, or running over already dead animals, and I mightve been the one who hit the skunk that sprayed me and my car. It felt like a nightmare. But if we can just open ourselves to hearing the language of our energy more instead of listening to our minds about what it all 'means'....I think thats where it counts.

I almost hit a fox . It ran out in the road :( 5 feet in front of my car on dark road at midnight with no lights , I just saw a dark shadow run by .

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9 hours ago, nitekreature said:

I almost hit a fox . It ran out in the road :( 5 feet in front of my car on dark road at midnight with no lights , I just saw a dark shadow run by .

this literally also happened to me about three days ago

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than she hung around and looked at me, and moved around as though she were trying to get back to the other side, i wondered if she had babies in the brush she had jumped out of before me. i kept driving slowly to admire the foxy foxiness...i'm not happy with this almost running over animals

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While not always avoidable (hitting a creature on the rd) if I’m travelling at a time I know there is going to be a lot of animal activity, or if it seems like there are lots of animals popping out into the road, I use my intent/will to create a different outcome ...like *not* hitting them, or “clearing the way”. We get a lot of birds hanging around the rd in the mornings and they usually do these kamikaze moves, and I got really tired of stomping on my brakes all the time, so I tried using my intent instead, and it tends to work. 

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Works for me too. It's funny how I forget that maybe I can actually do something about these kinds of things. And amazing how much it does work when I remember and put some effort into it. Not battin' 1000 yet, but with practice there is improvement. 

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Thanks Cammie! I appreciate that perspective. Reading that got me to realize I wasn't using intent because of this pattern I have carried around life long: I felt like my intent was reminding me that I'm a 'bad person' or whatever, and that I need those constant reminders, because it gets me to stay overly conscious of everything I do so that I don't hurt everyone/piss them off. I'd rather avoid recapping this, but let's see what fun happens

Same Douglas, it's kind of truly amazing, some of the things I've been able to accomplish with my intent, but I'm still getting used to the 'lifestyle' so I sometimes forget entirely I could apply it

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45 minutes ago, peastacey said:

I'd rather avoid recapping this, but let's see what fun happens

:lol: I know what you mean! I just mentioned it cause I'm always looking out for our fellow creatures, or I try at least. 

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