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Hi, I messaged you the exercise, you should be able to download it. Lorrie

Hi. I just received guidance that I should take up an old technique I learned from what I believe was the spirals/recap course? I do not remember the technique but I remember the logic behind it and the bare bones of the technique. One locates the energy that is trapped from an unfinished task in a kind of whirling vortex and then break that and retrieve the energy from it? But I don't think that's enough to put it into practice. It was different than the regular recapitulation technique. I don't know if someone could detail it. Either that or I think I need a way to view the old course chat logs. And I totally forget how to do that. And I do not know for sure which class it came from or which section of that class. I'm sorry if i'm posting this in the wrong spot or something. It always confused me because it seemed like there are two main forums. One that's more public and one that's more for class takers. And I never know how to navigate to the other one. TIA

Nick, I just now read this. I've been down this road, too. I'm so, so sorry. The emptiness that happens the first time you come home after she passes. It's like a huge shock. I didn't even realize how deep our connection had been. The awareness of her is suddenly silent. You did a great deal for and with her, Nick. I guess we all have regrets, though. But I'm here to say, she told you it was ok and that she was ready. And throughout her life she told you how much she loved you in return. It may take some time to process this grief. The best you can do is allow it. You're a great kitty dad, Nick. The amount of love you two shared was/is amazing. Love and hugs, Beth

@Nick I'm so, so sorry for your loss. I have two sweet boy cats, ten years apart, and my older boy is nearing the end of his years. He's 14 now, and still with me, but he's frail and tired and a bit crusty, but no less precious or loving or trusting or empathic. I've been grieving already in anticipation of what's to come. Every time he puts his paw on me if I'm upset or he just wants to be close feels like a blessing and a reminder that I won't always have him. What you shared is so beautiful and relatable. And the story of you holding her in the bath -- it got me. 😭 Many, many hugs. Your Kitty was clearly so deeply loved.

Hallo Belle, I was searching for something to continue the recap as I was feeling a bit overwhelmed and came to that post. I have came to feel that there is guilt and some other emotions that aren't mine. I get jolted from sounds to go back into fear, which this brings me to the energy of the person that does that and I am not letting it go. Letting go is na issue but there is something more into it as I feel something is attached in my energy that was put there and when I try to release it all kind of odd stuff are happening around me from people try to reestablish it back to my energy. Any advice on that especially on what mentioned about surrendering into it when I feel I cant feel which is the blockage of that energy adn would want more than feel than being stuck which prevents my energy flowing and feel.

Thank you for sharing this. Your energy is so beautiful and the love/bond energy you had with your kitty. She could understand you in such a way and you her that is so beautiful. Loads of hugs and know that is really beautiful this energy.

Looking great, love I can be in dark mode 🥰

It looks great on mobile too!

Just clicking around now, but it looks really nice !! Formatting and colors, it's all quite appealling and easy on the eyes.

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I'm sorry for your loss, Nick. Your tribute to her and how she was interwoven into your life is beautiful. I think you also illustrated how the detachment we talk about as Makers doesn't mean, ' not feeling,' I think because we are more detached from the world, we tend to feel emotions with incredible purity and strength, like a child does before they learn how to shut the world out. I think placing her in view of the bird bath was a nice touch. And I think you made the right choice for her to go at that time, to keep her going would have been for you, not for her. And I think being with your pet, in those last moments, giving them comfort, letting them know they are loved is the best you can possibly do in those last moments here- think of her cat energy, returning to the pool, feeling that love and how that love that she brings in with her will enrich that pool for the new kitties coming into our world. Lorrie

@Nick "Living a life that is worth going through the pain of dying." The grief can show you things, a nugget of knowledge, when you feel ready maybe try this, go out in your garden and really set it free, move the energy of your sadness, move it into the word, into the trees, the ground, the rocks, let your awareness carry it out and touch everything in the world. Do that with all the will you can muster. I understand the joy, this movement can be quite joyful. Then in the empty space where the sadness was you will see something powerful just for you, probably even more gifts of knowledge that relationship created. C

{{Nick}} So sorry to hear of your loss. I know how much it hurts right now, but that's nothing compared to the connection you shared. In a way sharing this doesn't seem like the right time, but since I was reminded of it, I'll do it anyway. I used to have two cats, they are both gone now but it was interesting how they dealt with seeing me in pain. They both stalked it really effectively but in different ways. My other cat was a sweetheart about it, she'd poke her head at my heart and meow at me. My other cat, she just wouldn't give a shit. She would just stare me down ruthlessly, while going all high and mighty Egyptian goddess on me. There was something really funny about that, after a while it would always bring me great joy. It's difficult to explain, it's just the perspective she provided through our connection struck me that way. I don't think exploring your grief or even finding joy in it is a dishonor to Kitty. The opposite if anything, cats are curious stalkers. Kai

A beautiful tribute to Kitty, Nick. And to death, and life. ((((((hugs)))))) cheri

So sorry Nick for your loss of Kitty, I feel you. Our bond with our cats is very special, a true connection and love shared unequivocally. I understand how you are feeling right now, know it will pass and remember that Kitty is not gone but just moved on.. ((hugs)) Belle

I’m so sorry Nick. 😢❤️ My dog Cleo was my heart dog. She passed away 6 years ago…I grew up with other dogs and didn’t think I would be affected the way I was when she passed, so I know what it’s like (it sucks 🙁) but it does get better with time. ((hugs))